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Merrik66
Cochise

USA
370 Posts

Posted - 22 Aug 2014 :  11:52:45 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've got a guy nearby who has a 1975 grandville he's parting out. I had been halfway exploring finding one for my '63 gp. I swear I saw a thread here about using one from an early 70's grandville mike389 maybe? . In any case, it's all still together on the car and .bolted to trailing arms. If I'm correct would this work for a '63? Or if not could it work for a 66' 2+2? Either car I'll go get it. Thanks for the help, experience, input, and advise. Also, I have heard about the aftermarket systems but this is a fraction of the cost.

Blued and Painted
Chief PONTIAC

USA
3404 Posts

Posted - 23 Aug 2014 :  12:16:35 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Don't really know. I'm guessing both cars are factory 4 links. Take some measurements and pic's and see if it's real close.
Hopefully he's only asking 10 bucks or so for a used sway bar.



Bull Nose Formula/ 461/ Q-Jet/
TH400/ 3.08 8.5 / R44TS.

Edited by - Blued and Painted on 23 Aug 2014 12:17:33 AM
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Phil
The Great White Buffalo

USA
7214 Posts

Posted - 23 Aug 2014 :  04:57:40 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Is the 63 an 'X' frame like comparable year Chevy's? If so, it's definitely not working.

Bowties are for Pee-wee Herman. "Chevy": even the name sounds cheap, but not as cheap as your Pontiac will be with an LS transplant.
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Merrik66
Cochise

USA
370 Posts

Posted - 23 Aug 2014 :  1:10:36 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Visually speaking, the frame for the 63' is very similar layout to a 66' cat frame I have sitting in the yard. From the one pict he sent me the sway bar appears to slide into the rear of the trailing arm. But the photo is not definitive or close up. I hope to hear mike389 or Wilshire because I think both of those guys have had experience...could be wrong though.
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Phil
The Great White Buffalo

USA
7214 Posts

Posted - 23 Aug 2014 :  1:53:03 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ok and I did some checking and it appears Pontiac didn't use the x frame those years. It shouldn't be too difficult to adapt or even cobble something together.

Bowties are for Pee-wee Herman. "Chevy": even the name sounds cheap, but not as cheap as your Pontiac will be with an LS transplant.
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mike389
Big Trees

USA
567 Posts

Posted - 25 Aug 2014 :  11:20:51 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Merrik
i do have a sway bar & control arms from a '74 Granville, ( i heard about Poci mag. article that they fit early '64's ) turned out the control arms where 1/2" to short & bushing ends to wide to fit my '64 Bonneville.
i was told the 1/2" difference would screw things up so it sits in my shop collecting dust!!
i thought about pressing out bushings and see if width will then slide in bracket and use '64 bushings !!!
if there is a chassis specialist out there that says the -1/2" wont hurt i will try to make them work!!!!
http://psp.aquacomp.net/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=6799&SearchTerms=sway,bar
big mistake taking measurement's with car on the ground !!!

Edited by - mike389 on 25 Aug 2014 11:45:02 AM
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Merrik66
Cochise

USA
370 Posts

Posted - 26 Aug 2014 :  12:11:18 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think I'll go ahead and pick it up. Thanks for the reply mike. A half inch actually seems like it could mess with pinion angle maybe during hard acceleration or rapid deceleration. I may be able to weld something up if really needed. I won't do it right away though. I think I'm going to put a few more feelers out there to see if anyone has had a successful approach to this mod. I'll definitely get the control arms now that you brought it up. Thanks.
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Merrik66
Cochise

USA
370 Posts

Posted - 26 Aug 2014 :  02:01:07 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mike, just checked out your Picts from the link you posted above. This one from '75 is different from yours. It has a swoop near the pumpkin. Hmm. Well see. If I find out anything positive about it I'll be sure to share the info.
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mike389
Big Trees

USA
567 Posts

Posted - 26 Aug 2014 :  1:39:41 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i was told that the 1/2" would screw things up !! will have to cut and weld the '64 end links with extra 1/2" added to the '74 arms maybe this winter!!
check out 2nd pic it's right side up and has the swoop for the pumpkin !!
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mike389
Big Trees

USA
567 Posts

Posted - 28 Oct 2014 :  12:05:02 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Merrik
did you ever get any where with the sway bar !!!
here is a catalog that has control arms/sway bars, early 60's on !!
more choice's of every thing !! all types of bushings rubber to poly.

order cat as well as it has on line cat for all Pontiac's !!!!
http://www.nationalpartsdepotcatalogs.com/WebProject.asp?BookCode=gto13flx&archival=1&from=2#
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Merrik66
Cochise

USA
370 Posts

Posted - 29 Oct 2014 :  12:07:59 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i tried setting up a time to get it from the guy and he didn't return my calls. I finally gave up. It's ok I guess, everything in mothball. Work has gotten a little slow so no money going into pontiac stuff...only cleaning parts etc. at present. I'm gonna check out your link though. I'm sure the sway bar really does make a worthwhile improvement/upgrade.
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mike389
Big Trees

USA
567 Posts

Posted - 01 Nov 2014 :  4:31:01 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
here is another site: http://firechiefenterprises.com/
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Merrik66
Cochise

USA
370 Posts

Posted - 02 Nov 2014 :  6:33:26 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Checked em out mike. Site is under construction. A header says email for other parts. I'll probably do so a little down the line when funds loosen up. Thanks for info and links!
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