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rkellerjr
Many Feathers

USA
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Posted - 27 Aug 2016 :  11:57:55 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I know I haven't been posting much but I have been lurking and reading. I just ordered most of the LED replacement bulbs for the entire car which includes sequential tail lights. I'll post pics and progress installation stuff when I start on it.

Rich
1975 TA - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aR86YT69yeY

Admin
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Posted - 27 Aug 2016 :  12:50:59 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Cool.

What about lights in the wheel wells?

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rkellerjr
Many Feathers

USA
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Posted - 27 Aug 2016 :  9:20:51 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hahahaha, none of that is in the plans.

Rich
1975 TA - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aR86YT69yeY
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rkellerjr
Many Feathers

USA
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Posted - 02 Sep 2016 :  11:34:16 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My first package arrived with everything except my 194 replacements. They are on back order, these include the side markers, license plate, and dash lights. Everything else will be replaced hopefully this weekend....


Rich
1975 TA - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aR86YT69yeY
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Blued and Painted
Chief PONTIAC

USA
3405 Posts

Posted - 03 Sep 2016 :  10:05:18 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Subscribe... Very cool.

Hopefully a significant head light improvement. Are they relayed up?


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Edited by - Blued and Painted on 03 Sep 2016 10:05:43 AM
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rkellerjr
Many Feathers

USA
1260 Posts

Posted - 03 Sep 2016 :  11:02:15 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Don't understand the "relayed up" question, everything is plug and play after replacing the blinker and hazard flashers.

Rich
1975 TA - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aR86YT69yeY
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Phil
The Great White Buffalo

USA
7215 Posts

Posted - 03 Sep 2016 :  11:23:10 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Exactly, as there's much less current draw/load on the circuit.

I had an 82 Mustang GT that had very dim gauge illumination. Rather than chase the dimmer switch, printed circuit, bulbs, wiring etc. I swapped out the bulbs and green lenses for green led's that plugged right into their place.

Brightness was ridiculously improved and I had to keep the dimmer on the lowest setting to achieve something akin to normal illumination. Current draw was no longer an issue, whatsoever.

Bowties are for Pee-wee Herman. "Chevy": even the name sounds cheap, but not as cheap as your Pontiac will be with an LS transplant.

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cortcomp
Coyote

USA
5335 Posts

Posted - 04 Sep 2016 :  1:50:25 PM  Show Profile  Visit cortcomp's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yes and no, many plug and play LED kits have resistors to step down the current to like 3.3v that the LED likes. Those tail light bulbs have them. They'll still be hot when you touch them, because of that resistor giving off heat and putting a load on the circuit. I had two of those in the left of my '71 and two regular on the right, couldn't tell the difference. However, there can be a HUGE difference between brands as cheap ones will use lower output LEDs, less of them, crappy resistor circuits, etc. Also, even cheap ones will be brighter on a poor circuit, as Phil mentioned. They don't need 14v. On a solid circuit, the cheap ones are as good as regular bulbs at least, so i guess no down side.

Mine were super cheap, just needed them to get home from a long car show when i found i had two out. they fit loose in the socket and were a PITA. In a kit like above, most likely better lights. The headlights should be a big improvement if they're any kind of decent for LED ones. The stock lights in my 69 suck and i have new wiring, clean circuits, etc. Dash lights and interior lights big improvement, heater lights big improvement, side marker lights big improvement.

I think they're good just because they generally give off less heat, they're less finicky and more forgiving of old circuits.
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rkellerjr
Many Feathers

USA
1260 Posts

Posted - 04 Sep 2016 :  10:24:57 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
First video is with just the front turn signal LED's, everything else is stock lighting...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9k1oJeN7wI

Second video is with the tail light LED assembly. We had to change the front turn signal's back to the original bulbs, for some reason, the LED bulbs were not giving the proper polarity so that everything worked appropriately. I'm going to have to call Class Industries and figure out why. FYI, my daughter is controlling everything and she has never sat in the drivers seat before ;D She turned on the windshield wipers, you'll hear her laughing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTdaoUFGlL0

I didn't create a "how to", a little lazy on this one as they give instructions and I think there are other video's available. Feel free to ask questions and I'll answer. Whole project took about 7 hours.

Here is what everything looks like cleaned up a bit ...





On the second pic it was getting late so I didn't trim the wires up but they look a bit neater than the picture shows.

Rich
1975 TA - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aR86YT69yeY
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cortcomp
Coyote

USA
5335 Posts

Posted - 04 Sep 2016 :  11:12:40 PM  Show Profile  Visit cortcomp's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Man, those tail lights make the WHOLE deal worth it!
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rkellerjr
Many Feathers

USA
1260 Posts

Posted - 05 Sep 2016 :  08:08:10 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
They are cool. Know that with the 2nd gen firebird you do have to trim your tail light housings so that the LED panels sit flush within them. I used my dremel tool.

Rich
1975 TA - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aR86YT69yeY
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Admin
Ye Olde Webmaster

844 Posts

Posted - 05 Sep 2016 :  10:00:11 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Very nice effect Rich. That makes the old bird stand out just a bit more.

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rkellerjr
Many Feathers

USA
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Posted - 19 Oct 2016 :  06:49:48 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well, things haven't been all roses as I've transitioned to LED's. While the taillights work great, the other bulbs have not. Come to find out, a pair of resistors have to be installed so the front turn signals work with LED, as well as the side markers. Currently the side markers (LED bulbs) won't flash when the running lights are off but will flash when they are on. Normal bulbs work fine. After running and connecting wires for the resistors, it seems I did not have the right instructions so will have to do it again, or at least some modifications to how the resistors are connected.

All in all though, even with this minor set back, LED's look great on the car and the stress on the electrical is practically zero now. Whenever I'd turn on the headlights my volt gauge would drop from 14.5 to 12 and forget it if I had to turn on the windshield wipers or roll up a window (electric). Now it doesn't move and everything works as if the lights aren't on at all. Also, the new Halogen headlights are a great replacement of the originals, way better.

Rich
1975 TA - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aR86YT69yeY
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rkellerjr
Many Feathers

USA
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Posted - 19 Oct 2016 :  06:50:19 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Next up, replacing the dash lights to LED's.

Rich
1975 TA - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aR86YT69yeY
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cortcomp
Coyote

USA
5335 Posts

Posted - 19 Oct 2016 :  12:23:44 PM  Show Profile  Visit cortcomp's Homepage  Reply with Quote
On the resistors for the turn signals, they didn't give you an LED compatible flasher in the kit? when i've done turn or brake/turn bulb changes where the bulbs didn't have resistors built in, i had to use a flasher that was made to work with LEDs. I wouldn't manually add resistors in the wire as it's kind of a PITA to calculate load, they generate heat, and you just plain shouldn't need to.

Agree on the halogen lights. I was unknowingly using incandescents in my truck, and i even had the relay kit up front to give them direct voltage around the headlight switch. I won an award and goodguys and took the headlight out (with the sticker) to keep and tried to buy another headlight. "We don't make those anymore, have to use the halogen replacement." So, i did for both lights, and wow, what a difference.
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rkellerjr
Many Feathers

USA
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Posted - 20 Oct 2016 :  9:35:32 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yep, I have the LED flasher installed. I thought that was all it took, apparently not.

Rich
1975 TA - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aR86YT69yeY
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Blued and Painted
Chief PONTIAC

USA
3405 Posts

Posted - 21 Oct 2016 :  12:30:32 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I finally went too the web sight.
Im seriously considering the up grade
So it looks like every thing is sold separately, No package deal or kit.


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cortcomp
Coyote

USA
5335 Posts

Posted - 21 Oct 2016 :  10:07:27 AM  Show Profile  Visit cortcomp's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I would try another LED flasher. Really, that's all that should be needed. Something is up there, shouldn't need to add resistors.
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rkellerjr
Many Feathers

USA
1260 Posts

Posted - 27 Oct 2016 :  10:59:11 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Blue, the rear tail lights come in a package with all the wiring, etc. and instructions. The rest of the lights all come separately, to include the flashers. I think they do that because not all cars have to have the flashers. As a matter of fact, mine work with the old flasher unit.

Cortcomp, I have two LED flashers, the lights act the same with either brand new flasher. Right now everything is LED except for the front two markers. And actually, the LED markers don't look that different except when blinking and my rears don't blink. I'll tackle the issue later this winter. Right now everything works so, I'll just leave those two LED's out for now.

Rich
1975 TA - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aR86YT69yeY
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