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Chavez
Buffalo

USA
44 Posts

Posted - 07 Jun 2016 :  5:20:27 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've had the unfortunate opportunity of having a cam lobe wipe out on me so now I'm rebuilding my motor from scratch. I've taken my block to the machine shop to get it cleaned out. I want to make sure this time I put a good oil filter when I get this motor built again. Not that the filter had anything to do with what happened. I just want to put quality parts in it this time. I've heard that the Acdelco pf24 is a good oil filter to use. Any one use them before? If not then what other oil filters out there are best to use? Thanks guys

Tub
Sitting Bull

172 Posts

Posted - 07 Jun 2016 :  6:44:33 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah, some use the AC. Lots of guys use the NAPA Gold 1258, made by WIX. The WIX number is 51258.

I've used more NAPA filters than any other. But, I'm now running a K&N HP-2003 filter on my bracket 455. They cost a bit more, but are supposed to filter out smaller particles. They also have a higher burst strength, and a nut on the end, which helps get 'em off easier. Don't know if they are really any better, or not. I never had any problems with the NAPA. And they are only about $7-$8 at your local NAPA store.

http://www.fleetfilter.com/filter/51258.html

https://www.napaonline.com/napa/en/p/FIL1258/

http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail/WIX0/51258.oap?pt=C0289&ppt=C0023

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/wix-51258?seid=srese1&gclid=CjwKEAjw4dm6BRCQhtzl6Z6N4i0SJADFPu1nqS4M9ZVnYSIYh-XOPHZl2CaGterHt2ldK7_pqbw6SxoCZNHw_wcB

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/knn-hp-2003/overview/year/1968/make/pontiac/model/firebird

http://www.jegs.com/i/K-N/599/HP-2003/10002/-1

Edited by - Tub on 07 Jun 2016 6:52:31 PM
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cortcomp
Coyote

USA
5335 Posts

Posted - 07 Jun 2016 :  7:13:50 PM  Show Profile  Visit cortcomp's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I run the K&N's on everything because of that nut; some of my vehicles you really can't get an oil filter wrench in there. However you're paying $14.99 a filter vs the $7, so there's that.
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Chavez
Buffalo

USA
44 Posts

Posted - 07 Jun 2016 :  7:44:55 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the input guys. Napa filters were also on my radar but if those filters are made by wix then why not just buy a wix? I wasn't aware of k&n. They make good products. I'm probably going to go with k&n , especially if they really filter out smaller particles. Going to need it when i break in the motor.
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67drake
Sitting Duck

Azerbaijan
1501 Posts

Posted - 07 Jun 2016 :  7:53:14 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I used to run AC oil filters years ago,but I've read their quality has slipped since then. I've used the NAPA gold for the last 10 years or so.


71' GTO Original 400 M20 3.23 posi
13.95@102.1 MPH on street tires
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tjs44
Cochise

USA
410 Posts

Posted - 07 Jun 2016 :  8:11:57 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I switched to Baldwin.Tom
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Phil
The Great White Buffalo

USA
7214 Posts

Posted - 07 Jun 2016 :  9:37:57 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I use the AC's as I have a cabinet full from a mass purchase years ago. I've also used the Mobil 1 filters and they are a quality part too.

Just stay away from big orange.

Bowties are for Pee-wee Herman. "Chevy": even the name sounds cheap, but not as cheap as your Pontiac will be with an LS transplant.
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loosetappet
Sitting Bull

113 Posts

Posted - 08 Jun 2016 :  9:38:17 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If you have a clearance issue with the big filters like the PF24 or the Wix 51258, try a small body filter like the ACdelco PF61 OR Bosch 3423. They work fine but have a smaller diameter.
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GtoGuy32
Cochise

USA
842 Posts

Posted - 08 Jun 2016 :  11:23:08 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wix or Napa for me

I have used Purolator Pure one filters on daily drivers as well and they seem to work well. I usually cut open the filters to see what kind of junk they captured.

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67drake
Sitting Duck

Azerbaijan
1501 Posts

Posted - 09 Jun 2016 :  08:08:30 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by tjs44

I switched to Baldwin.Tom



Just curious,I've always heard how good Baldwins' filters are,but I've never seen them for sale anywhere. Where do you find them?


71' GTO Original 400 M20 3.23 posi
13.95@102.1 MPH on street tires

Edited by - 67drake on 09 Jun 2016 08:09:01 AM
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tjs44
Cochise

USA
410 Posts

Posted - 09 Jun 2016 :  08:51:40 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I bought them on Ebay but there is a local auto supply that sells them.Im sure if you do a search you will find them.Iuse I think the B9 but in some applications its too tall,cant remember the shorter one.Tom
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Steve C.
Crazy Horse

1672 Posts

Posted - 09 Jun 2016 :  09:54:50 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Try their search locator

http://www.baldwinfilter.com/
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Steve C.
Crazy Horse

1672 Posts

Posted - 09 Jun 2016 :  10:04:07 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Last time I checked the nominal micron rating for the popular WIX 51258 is 19 and the WIX 51049 is listed as 25 microns. Both listed 9-11 gpm for max flow rate.

Here was a e-mail response I received from K&N regarding their filters:

"Our synthetic-cellulose blend filter media stops particles as small as 10-20 microns, while still allowing high flow rates (between 12-16 gallons per minute, depending on filter size)."

So is there really a big deal between these to make any real impact on your car. Both brands are good.

MICRON LEVELS NOT GREAT FOR COMPARISON ......

"The truth is that chicken wire will remove 5 micron particles. It will even remove 1 micron particles. BUT, it will not do so with very good efficiency. The key is, how efficient is the filter at removing x micron particles. If you don't know how efficient it is at a certain level, the micron rating means nothing."

http://www.carjunky.com/news/motor_oil/mom7.shtml
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tjs44
Cochise

USA
410 Posts

Posted - 09 Jun 2016 :  10:30:35 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
PF24 cross is a B39.Tom
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Steve C.
Crazy Horse

1672 Posts

Posted - 09 Jun 2016 :  11:05:38 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Baldwin filter information. Including 3 links at the bottom to further the micron rating subject. If interested apparently you can find the rating for the B39 filter.

http://www.baldwinfilter.com/ProductHighlights122010.html
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tjs44
Cochise

USA
410 Posts

Posted - 09 Jun 2016 :  12:38:36 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You can buy B39s on ebay for $5.53 with free shipping buying 10.If length is not a issue the B9 has more capacity.I have 2 cars that use B9s and two with heads that use the B39. I started using Baldwin filters back in 1972 when I bought my first boat.Tom
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GtoGuy32
Cochise

USA
842 Posts

Posted - 09 Jun 2016 :  11:31:30 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Steve C.

Last time I checked the nominal micron rating for the popular WIX 51258 is 19 and the WIX 51049 is listed as 25 microns. Both listed 9-11 gpm for max flow rate.

Here was a e-mail response I received from K&N regarding their filters:

"Our synthetic-cellulose blend filter media stops particles as small as 10-20 microns, while still allowing high flow rates (between 12-16 gallons per minute, depending on filter size)."

So is there really a big deal between these to make any real impact on your car. Both brands are good.

MICRON LEVELS NOT GREAT FOR COMPARISON ......

"The truth is that chicken wire will remove 5 micron particles. It will even remove 1 micron particles. BUT, it will not do so with very good efficiency. The key is, how efficient is the filter at removing x micron particles. If you don't know how efficient it is at a certain level, the micron rating means nothing."

http://www.carjunky.com/news/motor_oil/mom7.shtml




Interesting...
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Chavez
Buffalo

USA
44 Posts

Posted - 10 Jun 2016 :  12:05:32 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
All good choices guys. Bottom line I'm looking for one to use during engine break in and catch everything.If I wipe out another cam again I don't want to go through what I'm going through now which is tearing engine apart and starting over again. Such a pain in the ass and wallet.
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Steve C.
Crazy Horse

1672 Posts

Posted - 10 Jun 2016 :  07:52:56 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Diameter of average human hair 70 microns
Lower limit of visibility (naked eye) 40 microns
White blood cells 25 microns
Talcum powder 10 microns

Concern about a 10 micron rating difference between different quality brand filters seems a bit of overkill.
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tjs44
Cochise

USA
410 Posts

Posted - 10 Jun 2016 :  09:41:43 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I dont think any oil filter will save a engine if a cam and lifter is being ground up inside it.The time it happened to me all bearing got ate up including cam bearings.Tom
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